it's payback. >> of all the things that president obama's up to that rick was just talking about, this really doesn't stick in my craw. it does illustrate what we've talked about many times, greta, which is the medaling of celebrity and politics in the united states and whether it's stephen spiel burg who is ambassador to switzerland, samuel l. jackson, bill maher. go down the list. kobe bryant, what is he going to be? they've all done a lo a lot for obama. they should all get something. >> can i tell you the worst part? these celebrities get sent off, these big donors get sent off to a couple of these celebrity posts to be ambassador. >> then they're miserable. >> then we have to call them ambassador and your honor for the rest of their live. >> they bow down at ab i anna wintour. they bow down in the hallways at vogue. she has all the titles she needs. >> will it be secretary rice? >> i don't think so. all along i thought that was floated and it was interesting, but i don't see what they gain by putting her up now. >> i don't think the president -- he said today she's done a terrific